Week 23 – Eichler Siding/T&G Decisions

Posted by on Jul 10, 2014 in The Palamino House | No Comments
Week 23 – Eichler Siding/T&G Decisions

Week 23 came and went and we forgot to update our blog on Sunday. Weather was spotty all weekend too, so no quality pics from the big camera. While the landscapers started on what will be a 140 foot retaining wall the trim guys were finishing up the trellis work AND installing our Eichler siding! Now before you get excited, this siding is going on the INTERIOR of the house. As much as we wanted to keep a real “Eichler feel” to the exterior we did not want the maintenance of vertical grooved plywood. I have heard horror stories over the years from Eichler owners in CALIFORNIA so installing it in Tennessee where the humidity is 999999585857% greater than the golden state didn’t seem like a good idea at all. That, and the wood peckers would probably have a buffet.

While we decided to put Artisan Hardiplank on the exterior we definitely wanted to pay an “homage” to the Eichler siding, AND we hate drywall, so installing the siding on a few accent walls seemed like a good idea. As far as I know there is only ONE place to get the real deal and that is http://eichlersiding.com/ I emailed Jeff Nichols and discussed my product. He was very helpful, though he did take an extended vacation the day before I was going to place my order! Grrrrrr 😉

Anyway, we placed the order for several 4×9 and 4×10 sheets in 1/2 and 5/8 and it arrived, in fairly good shape, about a week later. They are BEAUTIFUL!

eichler_unpainted

 

Here is what they look like with a coat of primer on them.  The circle on the left are typical “voids” that we’ll need to fill in with putty before the paint.  The other two circles are installation issues.  This stuff is new to our trim guys.  May have to order some additional sheets to fix the issues.  I hope not.  This stuff is NOT cheap!  You have to admit though, this paneling really adds character.  The color you see will actually be the drywall color for most of the house.  These accent panels will be a much darker shade of brown.   Should look GREAT!

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One of the main reasons we purchased the Palomino plan http://www.houseplans.com/plan/2587-square-feet-3-bedrooms-2-bathroom-modern-house-plan-2-garage-32953 was the vaulted, and paneled, ceilings.  Volumetric height in a room has to be one of the best design tricks for making a room seem larger.  I’ve been in 10×10 foot rooms that seemed HUGE because of the high ceilings and I’ve been in 10,000 foot rooms that seemed suffocating due to low ceilings.  With the exception of a few closets and soffits EVERY ceiling is vaulted in our house, and every vaulted ceiling receives a lovely tongue and groove paneling treatment.  This is one of those things we had to get right.  Use the wrong wood, the wrong stain, the wrong paint and all of the sudden our modern ranch turns into a log cabin.

Our awesome Aussie, Matt Noss http://mattnossconstruction.com/ has been working on quotes for months.  He came up with two choices: A knotty six inch pine with beaded side and plain side and an eight inch pine that had a cool flip side that looked like a 4″ reveal.  The six inch was out of our price range per sq ft but the eight inch was in budget.  The thing is, it was unfinished and would have to be primed and painted.  The priming would need to happen BEFORE it was installed because the wood could shrink in the winter, revealing unsightly paint lines if we didn’t.

I started looking for prefinished T&G online and came across a website called Duragroove. http://www.duragroove.com/products/painted-tongue-and-groove-paneling/  The stuff they were pitching on the website was MDF.  It looked great, and the initial quote I received seemed very affordable.  One big problem:  The MDF was INTERIOR use only.  Why is this a problem?  Well, the house has HUGE eaves on the north and south elevations.  Actually, the east and west elevations weren’t exactly small either.  Because of the fixed windows and small stops on either side of them the wood type and finish would need to be the same.  Also, the two upstairs bathrooms would need the T&G as well and the MDF couldn’t hold up to the moisture.  With the 100+ CFM fans we installed it would have probably been fine, but who wants to take the chance on having droopy ceilings in the bathroom?

We were about to pull the trigger on the eight inch stuff when the salesman at Duragroove through a hail-mary pass.  They had just recently added another product to the Duragroove lineup that was real wood and could stand up to the exterior application, as long as it was not exposed to direct sun.  I had him ship us a sample and we were very pleased with the look.  One caveat with the product was that there was only one color; vintage white.  I was concerned it would clash with the ultra white beams but the wife, builder, and architect all thought it would make the beams stand out.  And I believe they are right!  The product almost has a white wash look to it.  The grain is still visible giving it a very warm, authentic look. Below is a pic of the Duragroove sample against the eight inch unfinished product with a Cabot stain applied

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We placed the order last week and 5,000 sq ft (!!!) should ship out tomorrow.  Even though there was a production lead time it will still probably save time versus having painters trying to stage 5,000 sq ft of T&G around the house during monsoon season here!

Up next: Retaining wall work kicks into high gear, interior walls get primed, trellis work finishes, and interior and exterior doors arrive!

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